SCAMMED BY @SonicRefs

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i am not pressuring anyone to refund, there was 24h time limit and admin did not make a decision. but i am being extorted and blackmailed for real. this case was reopened and new evidence appeared on the day i came onto i because i was extorted by @SonicRefs workers. review the case fairly and make a decision. full compliance available from my side. :)

@Alex the "blackmail" OP is referring to were threats made following OP's confrontation. as you can see here:
https://streamable.com/nmljgd?src=player-page-share

He cleared literally everything including the group where our deal was made

(The group where the pre verified amazon account sale was made, and the supposed "draining" from the bank account sale made by "Kay")

Me owing OP the drained amount was predicated on the logs present in that order group

Why has OP now cleared this telegram group? he claims that hes done this due to being afraid of "blackmail" but the only reason my worker threatened him was because he is a proven scammer. i am not relying on baseless accusations, and unlike him, i have submitted proof showing you guys that he is in fact a scammer, and an extortioner himself 

This is clearly an excuse he used in order to clear himself from deleting all chats and accounts. the telegram account @tutis777 and the order group were both deleted/cleared. i dont think theres much to say here but this is very strong proof against OP

I am not a scammer, i am not in the same category as OP, i was literally right about to refund him even though i didnt scam him

Anyways, at the end of the day i will try to avoid posting on this thread a lot to avoid diverting attention and wasting time. @Alex and the team he assigned will review all the evidence and come to their conclusion, and i will fully cooperate with anything they instruct!

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good old case of extortion. @SonicRefs asked for my btc addie like 4 days ago, i didnt even see this thread until his workers started spamming me. lol. anyways i have good faith with admin, i am ready to submit all forensics, hope you are ready as well @sonicref ;). crazy how i started scamming a day ago right??? hope you win !

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i will say one lsat thing. i will never bow down to scammers. i thought i lost i accepted, faith was restored. before i responded clearly to each point, now i wont because this is al made up BS.

sonic and his team admitted fault of draining me from the very beginning. i was literally trying to buy a laptop. if you think i am some mastermind al capone type, trying to scam @SonicRefs through a thread i did not even see being reopened. then be so. but to think i started scams after i deleted my telgeram is kind of insane. of course you dont know me, but even in the private dm @Alex i never pushed your decision, i just said i am hurt by your decision. got nothing much to say that i am being fucked here for the second time. truth prevailed by chance for the first time and sonic started blackmailing me so i delted my telegram. my mistake yeah. i got nothing to say other than let's do full forensics. if admins has any questions i am ready to fully comply including submitting my log on sessions.

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and for full FORENSICS: 

April 18

14:27 - Sonic Enrolls (Sonic’s worker) messaged me “Big mistake.”
I had no idea what he was referring to, as I hadn’t even checked Cracked after the initial decision and was unaware the case had been reopened.

14:31 - I received a dox threat. It was clearly coming from Sonic’s side.
At that point, I made the decision to delete my Telegram entirely.

I had already saved all relevant logs related to my case, so keeping the account active served no purpose. Due to the threats and blackmail, I cleared chats instead of manually reviewing everything, as that would have taken too long and posed further risk.

Deleting Telegram was a security decision, not an attempt to hide anything.

It’s also important to note that once a Telegram username is deleted, it can be reclaimed by someone else. Any activity tied to that handle after deletion cannot be attributed to me.

It is also worth pointing out the timing of all this  these issues suddenly appear right after the case was reopened, which raises serious questions about the intent behind this report.

1. “Sales Thread: n/a”

I have no sales threads on Cracked. I am not a seller here and have never provided services through this platform.

You also do not operate on Cracked. I have no idea who you are, and there has been no business conducted between us on this forum. (Well outside of forum also, I have never messaged you in my life)

This alone makes your report irrelevant to this platform.

2. Telegram claims and identity issues

You claim you found me through some Telegram group. I have no idea what group you are referring to and have never heard of it. It is not connected to Cracked in any way.

From my perspective, this is simply a group you and your associates operate in.

Telegram is full of impersonators. Anyone can claim to be anyone. That is exactly why identity should always be confirmed via forum PMs.

You never confirmed my identity through Cracked at any point. There was no verified link between my forum account and whatever Telegram account you were dealing with.

I changed my Telegram handle when the Sonic case started specifically because people were trying to take advantage of the situation. After receiving dox threats, I deleted the account entirely.

3. No business relationship

Who are you?

I have had no business with you.
You are not a user I have interacted with on Cracked.
You do not operate here, and there is no transaction linking us on this platform.

Conclusion

There is no verified connection between your claims and my forum account.

No transaction on Cracked.
No confirmed identity.
No business relationship.

This report is based entirely on unverified Telegram interactions and the timing of it appearing right after the case was reopened only adds further doubt to its credibility.

https://ibb.co/DPHWbBqm
https://ibb.co/rGmS1z47
https://ibb.co/ZpLXT7WJ
https://ibb.co/Q7spNRhp

I barely understand what you are trying to claim and the connections you are drawing. pretty fucking random but anywas u clearly confused admin.

if admin has any questions , i am ready to fully comply.

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and for full FORENSICS: 

April 18

14:27 - Sonic Enrolls (Sonic’s worker) messaged me “Big mistake.”
I had no idea what he was referring to, as I hadn’t even checked Cracked after the initial decision and was unaware the case had been reopened.

14:31 - I received a dox threat. It was clearly coming from Sonic’s side.
At that point, I made the decision to delete my Telegram entirely.

I had already saved all relevant logs related to my case, so keeping the account active served no purpose. Due to the threats and blackmail, I cleared chats instead of manually reviewing everything, as that would have taken too long and posed further risk.

Deleting Telegram was a security decision, not an attempt to hide anything.

It’s also important to note that once a Telegram username is deleted, it can be reclaimed by someone else. Any activity tied to that handle after deletion cannot be attributed to me.

It is also worth pointing out the timing of all this  these issues suddenly appear right after the case was reopened, which raises serious questions about the intent behind this report.

1. “Sales Thread: n/a”

I have no sales threads on Cracked. I am not a seller here and have never provided services through this platform.

You also do not operate on Cracked. I have no idea who you are, and there has been no business conducted between us on this forum. (Well outside of forum also, I have never messaged you in my life)

This alone makes your report irrelevant to this platform.

2. Telegram claims and identity issues

You claim you found me through some Telegram group. I have no idea what group you are referring to and have never heard of it. It is not connected to Cracked in any way.

From my perspective, this is simply a group you and your associates operate in.

Telegram is full of impersonators. Anyone can claim to be anyone. That is exactly why identity should always be confirmed via forum PMs.

You never confirmed my identity through Cracked at any point. There was no verified link between my forum account and whatever Telegram account you were dealing with.

I changed my Telegram handle when the Sonic case started specifically because people were trying to take advantage of the situation. After receiving dox threats, I deleted the account entirely.

3. No business relationship

Who are you?

I have had no business with you.
You are not a user I have interacted with on Cracked.
You do not operate here, and there is no transaction linking us on this platform.

Conclusion

There is no verified connection between your claims and my forum account.

No transaction on Cracked.
No confirmed identity.
No business relationship.

This report is based entirely on unverified Telegram interactions and the timing of it appearing right after the case was reopened only adds further doubt to its credibility.

https://ibb.co/DPHWbBqm
https://ibb.co/rGmS1z47
https://ibb.co/ZpLXT7WJ
https://ibb.co/Q7spNRhp

I barely understand what you are trying to claim and the connections you are drawing. pretty fucking random but anywas u clearly confused admin.

if admin has any questions , i am ready to fully comply.

I will be providing specific timestamps from this screen recording:
https://streamable.com/nmljgd?src=player-page-share

To view each section, skip to the specified timestamp:

- 0:25, my worker @s0nicenrolls tags him in the order group (this occurred after we were notified of @mrdawson's scam of @Rivo167Refs & @senseiref)

(For more details on the scam committed by @mrdawson, check here:
https://cracked.ax/Thread-Scam-report-against-mrdawson)

- 0:30 (5 seconds later), my worker @s0nicenrolls exports the html of the order group

(The same order group where our deals were made. the deals being the pre verified amazon account sale, as well as the bank sale made by my ex-employee "Kay")

- 0:38, @mrdawson ("tk"), upon seeing the ping, deletes the chat

- 0:48, my worker @s0nicenrolls, surprised by what he had just done, messages and confronts him about the chat deletion

(Important to note: as of this point, no "threats", "blackmail" or "extortion" has been made by anyone from our side)

- 0:54, @mrdawson ("tk"), admits to deleting the chat by saying "yes but"

(Important to note: one second later, he sends a message stating that "this case is over". what this indicates is @mrdawson ("tk"), is unaware that on APRIL 15 @Alex changed the outcome of the report in OP's favor)

(Also important to note: during this time, his telegram account, previously being "tutis777" has been changed to "pad_1337")

If you were following the case from the start, you would recognize that his previous username for this account, the same one in this order group i am referring to and is shown in the screen recording, was "tutis777"

For reference, go back to the first page of this thread:
https://cracked.ax/Thread-SCAMMED-BY-SonicRefs

Where in one of my responses you will find the attached screenshots, the most notable one being:
https://ibb.co/wFD7cjKZ

As you can see he was tagged in this order group, his username not being "pad_1337", instead being "tutis777". this proves that OP changed his username after this scam report against me (no threats made to him at this point)

- 1:03, this is the "blackmail" OP is referring to. my worker fake blackmailed him 

(Important note: in reality, we dont have any of his personal information, this was intended as a scare tactic as he was just caught deleting evidence and scamming cracked.ax users)

- 1:21, OP is notified of the decision being made in his favor

- 2:15, OP deletes his main telegram account 

Above are the most important timestamps and parts of the screen recording. the main point i want to disprove is his claim, that clearing evidence was done solely due to my workers threats

OP deleted the telegram order group prior to my worker's fake threats (he has 0 real info on him), displaying that even without being threatened, he still decided to wipe crucial evidence 

Now OP claims that "he never dealt with anyone", take a look at this coming from his latest response:

"1. “Sales Thread: n/a”

I have no sales threads on Cracked. I am not a seller here and have never provided services through this platform.

You also do not operate on Cracked. I have no idea who you are, and there has been no business conducted between us on this forum. (Well outside of forum also, I have never messaged you in my life)

This alone makes your report irrelevant to this platform."

OP desperately lies and claims "there has been no business conducted between us on this forum"

He also desperately claims:

"Telegram is full of impersonators. Anyone can claim to be anyone. That is exactly why identity should always be confirmed via forum PMs."

In reality, no one impersonated his username: "tutis777" as its currently claimed, and was turned into a channel, warning telegram users of his scams

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good old case of extortion. @SonicRefs asked for my btc addie like 4 days ago, i didnt even see this thread until his workers started spamming me. lol. anyways i have good faith with admin, i am ready to submit all forensics, hope you are ready as well @sonicref ;). crazy how i started scamming a day ago right??? hope you win !

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i will say one lsat thing. i will never bow down to scammers. i thought i lost i accepted, faith was restored. before i responded clearly to each point, now i wont because this is al made up BS.

sonic and his team admitted fault of draining me from the very beginning. i was literally trying to buy a laptop. if you think i am some mastermind al capone type, trying to scam @SonicRefs through a thread i did not even see being reopened. then be so. but to think i started scams after i deleted my telgeram is kind of insane. of course you dont know me, but even in the private dm @Alex i never pushed your decision, i just said i am hurt by your decision. got nothing much to say that i am being fucked here for the second time. truth prevailed by chance for the first time and sonic started blackmailing me so i delted my telegram. my mistake yeah. i got nothing to say other than let's do full forensics. if admins has any questions i am ready to fully comply including submitting my log on sessions.

Wtf are you talking about??? why do you keep lying lol

I never extorted you! my worker threatened you because you literally just scammed 2 cracked.ax users, them being @Rivo167Refs & @senseiref. not only were they scammed, but their customers were also scammed by extension

All the proof has already been submitted by them in Sensei's report here: 
https://cracked.ax/Thread-Scam-report-against-mrdawson

If you are innocent, then defend yourself with proof. so far youre just making false accusations of "extortion" and "blackmail" but when my worker pinged you in the order group (the one where the supposed "draining" occurred) you cleared the chat and then deleted your account

I dont want to spam this thread with proof, because theres no point. the mods are already reviewing everything and i hope they ban your ass for this shit

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nice man. creative. look, man to man, whatever the outcome, karma will punish you. i will not even respond to this bs because i have nothing to respond as it is all engineered bs POST decision POST my telegeram nick claiming. 

I never extorted you! my worker threatened you because you literally just scammed 2 cracked.ax users, them being @Rivo167Refs & @senseiref. not only were they scammed, but their customers were also scammed by extension

you litteraly say that you my screenshots are true and your worker extorted me, for this reason i deleted my telegram and you created some stories to make me a scamer. i mean dude, i dont have any presence here. its pathetic. i dont have a sales thread, a telegram group. wtf lol. grow up man. god is watching and god will puish you bad regardless of the outcome :) you are a scammer at heart.

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oh btw, just so you know whos a real g, sonic is risking his probably 1m/year business over a 3k scam. SONIC a real g. i respect it. but you shouldve not fucked with me. you shall see.

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damn, i was actaully on vacation and you made me use my brain... well actually some technical shit ;)


As for your username being taken by someone else — that’s actually good news for you in this situation:
    •    Your old messages will show “Deleted Account” as the sender, not the new person’s username
    •    The new person who took your username is a completely separate account with no connection to your old messages
    •    Anyone who sees old messages won’t be able to link them to the new account holder
So if someone tries to use your old messages against you, they’d have a harder time proving those messages belong to the new account with that username — Telegram’s metadata would show it was a deleted account, not the current one.


GG. FULL FORESNICS REQUEST.

at this point 3k usd would be cool, but what is cooler would be @SonicRefs banne for DRAINING, BLACKMAIL, EXTORTION AND SCAMMING.

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nice man. creative. look, man to man, whatever the outcome, karma will punish you. i will not even respond to this bs because i have nothing to respond as it is all engineered bs POST decision POST my telegeram nick claiming. 

I never extorted you! my worker threatened you because you literally just scammed 2 cracked.ax users, them being @Rivo167Refs & @senseiref. not only were they scammed, but their customers were also scammed by extension

you litteraly say that you my screenshots are true and your worker extorted me, for this reason i deleted my telegram and you created some stories to make me a scamer. i mean dude, i dont have any presence here. its pathetic. i dont have a sales thread, a telegram group. wtf lol. grow up man. god is watching and god will puish you bad regardless of the outcome :) you are a scammer at heart.

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oh btw, just so you know whos a real g, sonic is risking his probably 1m/year business over a 3k scam. SONIC a real g. i respect it. but you shouldve not fucked with me. you shall see.

@Alex OP is rambling incoherently, so if you want me to post my rebuttal, let me know please. Each point he just made has already been disproven by me in my previous response

Im saying this because im not trying to spam post and repeat myself

This report has already reached 12 pages long, and i wouldnt like to obscure the relevant information and divert attention off my main points

Unless you require me to respond, i will standby

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damn, i was actaully on vacation and you made me use my brain... well actually some technical shit ;)


As for your username being taken by someone else — that’s actually good news for you in this situation:
    •    Your old messages will show “Deleted Account” as the sender, not the new person’s username
    •    The new person who took your username is a completely separate account with no connection to your old messages
    •    Anyone who sees old messages won’t be able to link them to the new account holder
So if someone tries to use your old messages against you, they’d have a harder time proving those messages belong to the new account with that username — Telegram’s metadata would show it was a deleted account, not the current one.


GG. FULL FORESNICS REQUEST.

at this point 3k usd would be cool, but what is cooler would be @SonicRefs banne for DRAINING, BLACKMAIL, EXTORTION AND SCAMMING.

Dude... what are you posting...

I guess this is chatgpt's response to a question you asked it, but its completely irrelevant

Most of the screenshots, screen recordings and logs wont show "deleted account" because they were recorded/screenshotted prior to you deleting your account

This is common sense and youre treating it as some sort of bombshell, lol

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good morning. lol. yeah i was typing late at night after dinner, just trying to respond to this. 

and yeah, what is the issue of asking a technical question on google regarding forensics which will prove you wrong? dont think theres anything wrong with doing research, you scammer. :) you will be defeated through forensics and investigation, it is pretty fucking simple.

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admin, please do proper forensics before making a decision. this is the dirtiest, socially engineered defence based on blackmail and threat of dox. i deleted my telegram because sonic started threatening me. they reclaimed it and now engineered a defence. please refer to how properly do forensics for a nasty case like this. i am ready to fully comply. everything is faked.

ready to follow your instructions.